Lord Say and Sele

via Collins’s Peerage of England; Genealogical, Biographical, and Historical, Volume 7 pages 17 to 39

William de Say son and heir was Lord of Berling Seale &c in Kent and in 1260 Governor of the castle of Rochester and having espoused Sybyl daughter of John Marshall of Len ton was by her father of an only son at his death in 1272 and also of a daughter Agnes the wife of Sir Alexander de Cheney William de Say the only son and heir of William had summons to parliament on June 8th 1294 and departing this life in 1295 left by Mary his wife an only son Geoffrey de Say the fourth of that name who had summons to parliament in 1314 and at his death 1322 had an only son and heir by Idonea his wife daughter of William and sister and heir of Thomas Lord Leybourne Geoffrey only son had summons to parliament from 1326 to 1350 was admiral of the fleet and made a Knight Banneret 1336 He married Maud daughter of Guy de Beauchamp Earl of Warwick and by her was at his death in 1359 father of 1 William de Say who had summons to parliament from 1362 to 1369 and by a Beatrice daughter of Sir Thomas Bruce his wife had two children viz John who died unmarried 1383 and Elizabeth who was successively wife to John de Fal vesley and Sir William Heron but had issue by neither of them and died in 1428 2 Idonea the wife of John third Lord Clinton 3 Elizabeth who was wedded to Thomas de Aldone but brought no children And 4 Joan who was married to Sir William Fienes after whose death she espoused Stephen de Valence and became coheir to her brother Sir William Fienes only son of the said Sir William Fienes by Joan de Say was b Sheriff of Surrey and Sussex in 1 297 as also in 1300 c and in 6 Henry IV was found to be d son of William son of John Fienes and Joan his wife third sister and coheir to William de Say He had to wife Elizabeth daughter and heir of William Batisford by Margery heir to Simon Peplesham and by her had issue two sons I Sir Roger who by Elizabeth his wife daughter to John Holland left a son Richard who marrying Joan daughter and heir of Thomas Lord Dacre was declared Lord Dacre in 37 Henry VI See that title in Vol VI a MS St George predict c Rot Fin 1 Henry IV m 3r VOX VII b Rot Fin 20 Richard II m 25 1 Ibid 6 Henry IV m 7 C LORD SAY AND SELE 1

James Fiennes

Lord Saye and Sele

The epitome of a loyal Lancastrian servant, James Fiennes participated in Henry V’s Agincourt campaign in 1415. He then took part in the Norman battles and sieges throughout the reign of Henry V and into the early reign of his successor, Henry VI.

He was present at the coronation of Henry VI in Paris in 1430, and continued to establish his power base in Kent. By 1440, Fiennes was one of the more wealthy and powerful men in England. He took part in the founding of Kings and Eton colleges and was frequently the recipient of lands and titles from the crown.

Fiennes was given the office of Warden of the Cinque Ports and was created Baron Saye and Sele, in addition to being made chamberlain of the royal household.

Although the barony of Saye had been in his family many years previously, his elder brother Roger held a better claim to the title. Fiennes took the title Lord Sele from a manor he owned in Sevenoaks.

via Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.

Lord of the manor

The significance of King’s College to its founder, King Henry VI, is perhaps most clearly indicated by the College’s foundation charter. Firstly, the illumination on the first membrane of this extremely large parchment document depicts members of the House of Lords pleading for its foundation, and secondly, it bestowed upon the College an incredible amount of land.

King’s College became the lord of the manor for many of the estates it had been given and those which it subsequently obtained. This title indicated wealth and privilege, and it carried rights and responsibilities.

The lord of the manor had freehold ownership of the land, which could then be leased long-term to others under a system called copyhold (because the owner had a copy of the court roll recording the conveyance).

During the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries land was gradually enfranchised to the tenants (converted into freehold, the model of ownership in use today), but certain manorial rights were often retained.

Rectorial manors came with chancel repair liability, and King’s College still pays for chancel repair in some parishes where they are no longer Lords of the Manor.

via Estates: Lord of the manors | King’s College, Cambridge.

Hougun Manor

Situated on the west shore of Coniston Water, Cumbria, Hougun Manor has been classified as an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty by Natural England.

The Domesday Book refers to when the manor of Hougun was held by Earl Tostig about 1060. The peninsular given to Furness Abbey is recorded as part of the Manor of Hougun, which included Cartmel, and Walney Island, Houganai or island of Hougun.

The name Hougun is thought to derive from the Old Norse haugr meaning ‘among the hills‘.

via The Origins of Lancashire Denise Kenyon, Manchester University Press, 1 Jan 1991. pages 147-148

The Domesday entry for Hougun is significant in indicating the extent of Norman control.

In Hougun Furness Low Earl Tosti had four carucates of land to be taxed In Chiluestreuic qu Woodlands three carucates Sourebi Sowerby three carucates Hietun Heaton four carucates Daltune Dalton two carucates Warte Swarth two carucates Neutun Newton six carucates Walletun Walton six carucates Suntun Santon two carucates Fordebodele two carucates Basse six carucates Hert Hest two carucates Lies six carucates another Lies two carucates Glassertun Gleaston two carucates Steintun Stenton two carucates Cliuertun Crinleton four carucates Ouregraue Orgrave now called Titeup three carucates Meretun Marton alias Martin four carucates Pennigetun Pennington two carucates Gerleuuorde Irelith Kirkby two carucates Borch Burrow 6ix carucates Berretseige Bardsey four carucates Witingham Whitingham four carucates Bodele Bothil alias Bootle four carucates Santacherche Santonkirk one carucate Hougenai Furness High six carucates All these villages lie to Hougun Furness High Manor in Stercaland Strickland Mimet Mint Cherc iebi Kirkby Kendal Helsingetune Helsington Steintun Stainton Bodelforde Hotun Old Hutton Bortun Burton in Kendal Daltun Dalton Patun Patton Gilemichel had these In these are twenty carucates of land to be taxed Manor In Cherchebi Kirkby Kendal Duuan had six carucates to be taxed Manor In Aldingham Aldingham Ernulf had six carucates to be taxed Manor In Vlurestun Ulverston Turulf had six carucates to be taxed In Bodeltun Bolton six carucates to be taxed in Dene Dean alias Deyn one carucate

John de Harington

John de Harington attended king Edward I in his expedition to Scotland 1305, and was made a knight of the Bath at the same time with the Prince of Wales, afterwards king Edward II. He was summoned to Parliament from 18 Edw II to 21 Edw II 1347, when he died. He m Juliana da of sir Richard Barlingham, knt., and had besides other issue a son and heir apparent sir Robert who died in his lifetime having m Elizabeth sister and co heir of John de Moulton lord of Egremont a baron of parliament and leaving issue by her

1 John who succeeded his grandfather and was 2d baron Harington
2 Robert ancestor of the present Baron of whom hereafter

John 2d lord Harington was summoned to parliament 1348 and died 1363 leaving a son and heir Robert 3d lord who d 1405 leaving 2 sons, 1 Robert and 2 John 4th and 5th lords which last died 1457 leaving an only daughter Elizabeth wife of William lord Bonville.

Sir Robert de Harington younger brother of the 2d lord and ancestor of the present bart and of the lords Harington of Exton extinct was seated at Flete co Lincoln m Mary da of Kirkby and left one son

John m Agnes da of Laurence Flete of Flete co Lincoln and d 1421 was succeeded by his son

Robert m the da and co h of John de la Laund and left a son John m Katharine da and co h of sir Thomas Colepepper of Exton co Rutland knt and was succeeded by his son

Robert high sheriff co Rutland 1492 and 1498 and d 12 Feb 1501 He m Maud da of sir John Prisett knt chief justice of the common pleas and left a son

Sir John Harington of Exton aforesaid knt aged 30 at his father’s death he was high sheriff co Rutland 1503 1512 1516 and 1521 d 5 Nov 1524 buried at Exton m Alice da of Henry Southill of in Lincolnshire. He was succeeded by his eldest son

Sir John Harington of Exton knt high sheriff co Rutland 1520 1533 1540 and 1552 and treasurer of the army at Boulogne to king Henry VIII d 1 May 1554 he m Elizabeth da and h of Robert Moton of Peckleton co Leicester and was succeeded by his eldest son

Sir James Harington knt high sheriff co Rutland the latter part of 6th of Edward VI and again the 3d 8th 20th and 28th of Elizabeth m Lucy da of sir William Sidney of Penshurst co Kent knt and sister of sir Henry Sidney KG and aunt of sir Philip Sidney and 1592 having had issue by her who d 1590 3 sons

1 John created 21 July 1603 baron Harrington of Exton co Rutland He was entrusted with the tuition of the princess Elizabeth da of king James I till her marriage with Frederick count palatine of the Rhine and d on his return from the electoral court at Worms in Germany 24 Aug 1613 aged 73 leaving

2 Sir Henry m Cecilia da and co h of Francis Agard and had issue

  • 1 James slain in Ireland
  • 2 Sir William
  • 3 Sir John who m Mary da of William Offley and d 1615 leaving a da Sarah who was first wife of John lord Freshville of Staveley co Derby

3 Sir James 1st baronet

I Sir JAMES of Ridlington co Rutland and high sheriff of the co 35th of Elizabeth He was created a bart 29 June 1611 upon the first institution of this order and m Frances da and co h of Robert Sapcote of Elton co Bedford esq by whom he had 3 sons

  • 1 Sir Edward 2d bart
  • 2 Sir Sapcote knt m 1st Jane da of sir William Samwell of Upton co Northampton knt one of the auditors of James 1 by whom he had 1 James Harington his eldest son groom of the chambers to Charles I and author of the Oceana d without issue 1677 Sir Sapcote’s 2d wife was Jane da of sir John Woodward knt by whom he had several children.
  • 3 John m Frances da of Terringham Norwood of Astwood co Bucks

Sir James died 2 Feb 1613 and was succeeded by his eldest son

II Sir EDWARD received the honour of knighthood in his father’s lifetime was high sheriff co Rutland 19 James I and 12 Charles I and m Margery da and co h of John Doyley of Merton co Oxon esq with whom he had that seat and estate and by whom he had issue several das and 1 son

III Sir JAMES who sat in judgement upon his sovereign and was consequently 13 Car II attainted degraded and rendered incapable of bearing arms or title of dignity hem Katharine da and co h of sir Edmund Wright knt lord mayor of London by whom he had a numerous issue and was succeeded by his eldest son

IV Sir EDMUND twice m but d without issue and was succeeded by his great nephew

V Sir EDWARD who also d without issue and was succeeded by his great nephew

Debrett’s Baronetage of England: with alphabetical lists of such baronetcies as have merged in the peerage, or have become extinct, and also of the existing baronets of Nova Scotia and Ireland. 1835 page 11